A few different things coming off the workbench this week.
With an Elizabethan game test looming I decided to get a few more of those finished. A couple of pike and a Kern, not based yet as I have yet to finalise whats happening with basing. The English pike are Foundry and the Kern is Perrys.
I also completed a cart for 40mm Peninsular, really nice this and surprisingly is in fact a 1/35 scale plastic model.
Lastly a Spanish artillery crew of 5 figures.
These two are Perrys French artillery with a head swap for the Bicorne who will be my gun leader.
The other three gunners are first legion, again French with Bicorne Head swaps. The two figures in the middle came out less well than the right hand figure and the Perrys, but ok otherwise.
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I am still to decide how to base these guys, a single base for all the crew and detachable gun or based in pairs with a separate gun like the skirmishers. Not sure what will look best and be most flexible.
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Lovely and varied output there matey. How about in pairs on lozenge shaped bases for the artillerymen? Cheers, Chris
ReplyDeletecheers chris food for thought.
DeleteScarlet lapels are the hallmark of artillery workers. They are in charge of repairing the damaged guns and howitzers Until 1812 the setbacks of the artillery workers are scarlet. From this date they become blue as for all artillery.
ReplyDeletehttps://imagesdesoldats.fr/fr/artillerie-et-genie/1158-les-ouvriers-d-artillerie-1807-1812.html
https://imagesdesoldats.fr/fr/artillerie-et-genie/1166-les-ouvriers-d-artillerie-1813-1815.html
so are you letting me know these are incorrect? The images lok French
DeleteI didn't mean to be rough or rude
DeleteIn the artillery we distinguish:
the gunners
the bombardiers
the artillery servants
the artificers (also called guard store)
the artillery workers
The gunners serve the guns and the howitzers.
The bombers serve the mortars
the artillery servants supply the guns by bringing the ammunition from the artillery caissons to the guns.
These three groups wear the same uniform of the artillery with blue lapels edged with scarlet braids.
Artificers are responsible for making complete shots (combining the cannonball or canister, sabot and powder cartridge. The reverse of their coat is celestial blue (light blue).
Artillery workers are responsible for repairing the artillery pieces. They have totally scarlet reverses. During the Egyptian campaign, the artillery workers will wear distinctive yellow (collar and reverses) but this fancy will not survive the repatriation to France of the French expeditionary force.
These two last groups are assigned to the large artillery park bringing together the reserve of howitzers, guns, mortars, ammunition caissons, wagons and pontoons (the bridge crews depended at the time on the artillery and not on the engineers so they wear the uniform of gunners. ).
All these unifomological distinctions dating from the royal army will continue during the revolution and the Empire. From 1812 they will disappear. All the personnel assigned to the artillery will then wear the same uniform.
https://www.decitre.fr/livres/officiers-et-soldats-de-l-artillerie-et-le-systeme-gribeauval-1786-1815-9782352503170.html
https://histoireetcollections.com/fr/officiers-soldats/3872-l-artillerie-et-le-systeme-gribeauval-1786-1815-tome-2-os-26.html
https://histoireetcollections.com/fr/officiers-soldats/3941-his0659-l-artillerie-et-le-systeme-gribeauval-os-n27.html
https://editions-heimdal.fr/fr/soldat/987-soldat-hors-serie-n1.html
Do these distinctions apply to the Spanish artillery? If so what do the colours need to be if Roger has them all as gunners? Cheers, Chris
DeleteSorry I see you’ve said blue lapels edged scarlet braid. So Spanish followed French uniform regulations? Cheers
DeleteThere is a certain mimicry between the armies, including the belligerent armies. This is especially true for artillery. Concerning the Spanish artillery it wears an uniform very similar to the French artillerymen.
DeleteThe main difference is an imposing cocked hat with a wide yellow stripe and a golden grenade on either side of the scarlet collar.
Note that the Spanish artillery has French guns and howitzers of the Gribeauval type but whose reinforced wheels are more suitable for Spanish roads. The French will equip their guns with the wheels recovered from the Spanish throughout the peninsula war.
https://www.zinnfigur.com/en/Flat-figurines/Unpainted/Military-history/1789-1815/Spain/Spanish-artillery.html
Thank you! :-)
DeleteInteresting thank you.
DeleteRe. basing your artillery - have a look at Charlie Foxtrot who sells bespoke artillery sabot-style bases which allow you to put your crew, whether loading or firing, in the correct drill-book positions; they also have the bonus of bringing the gunners down to the same level as the wheels and trail on the gun. He will also alter the layout of the holes to meet specific requirements - top bloke all round (much like yourself!).
ReplyDeleteHaha, thanks very much. Not a massive fan of sabots but will certainly have a look thank you.
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